And it is concerning. These planets absolutely do count in a chart and I would consider any readings not involving these planets to be incomplete.
I have also seen people argue that the above three planets cannot be chart rulers (or can be co-rulers only) and I don’t agree with that either but I am not referring to this at all. I’m referring to the craziness that is leaving out the outer planets all together. Haha.
Would like to hear some thoughts on the matter?