Saturn – Capricorn & & Aquarius.
So, I will state that when the external worlds are used, Uranus does find its self-respect in Aquarius, Neptune in Pisces, and Pluto in Scorpio, (they also have check in which they are exalted, in fall, in hinderance too) so there is a relationship between Scorpio, Pisces, Aquarius and the external planets! The outer planets do not RULE these signs, or any indications at all, and there is a factor. The factor is that if we take Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, and use them as the rulers of signs, it ruins the complex system of debilities and self-respects.
Here is one factor: with the exception of the stars (the Sun = Leo and Moon = Cancer) each of the other 5 worlds rule 2 zodiac signs – we have:.
Things that WILL make an external planet notable within a private character are:.
Of all, in standard astrology, we categorize the relationship between an indication and a planet using what is known as important self-respects & & debilities. In traditional astrology, there are not just rulerships, however numerous various kinds of relationships that an indication and a world can have. For the sake of simpleness here, we will concentrate on rulerships, but here is a table discussing the conventional dignities and debilities. [http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig2.html] (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig2.html).
Now, Houses do still have rulers, but it changes depending upon the orientation of the houses in each natal chart. Whatever your very first house is, the ruler of that indication is the ruler of your 1st house, and then the ruler of your 2nd house indication is that ruler of that house, and so on. (ex/ Cancer ascendant = 1st home ruler = moon, 2nd home is leo, ruler = sun, 3rd house is virgo, ruler = mercury, and so on. PS. I prefer the oldest home system, whole signs, over the popular Placidus, however thats a story for another time, or for the remarks or something. ).
this is an extremely sensitive subject, and people tend to get a bit upset when told that as a solar pisces they are really jupiter ruled and not neptune ruled, etc.
the 12 houses being ruled as 1H = aries, 2h= taurus is an unwarranted modern-day disambiguation. there are 0 source texts that specify the houses this method.
the other homes that do not have a pleasure just do not have a planetary happiness – no world necessarily “rejoices” in homes 2, 4, 7, 8, and 10.
First of all, the reason why conventional astrologists still do not use external worlds (Uranus Neptune Pluto) as rulers is NOT because they dont “think in” or use these worlds.
Nobody understands precisely where the “1st house = aries, 2nd home = taurus, 3rd home = gemini” concept actually settled. My theory is that it seemed simple, there were 12 houses and 12 indications so – why not line them up? Its a totally modern-day development greatly used within pop astrology as a method to merely break down the homes. Technically, it is inaccurate, with no basis in any astrological source texts.
Mercurys happiness remains in the 1st home, the Moons happiness is in the 3rd house, Venus joy remains in the 5th home, Mars pleasure is in the 6th house, the Suns joy remains in the 9th home, Jupiters joy is in the 11th, and Saturns joy is in the 12th home.
Venus – Taurus & & Libra,.
Now onto your houses: in conventional astrology -.
Another distinction to make is that the external planets move soooo gradually that the sign they are in makes 0 individual or private distinctions about the querent themselves. Aspects in between 2 outer planets, like Neptune conjunct Uranus, Neptune sextile Pluto, etc, do not have personal significance.
Jupiter – Sagittarius & & Pisces,.
certain planets have what is called a “happiness” in specific houses -which is the closest we pertain to homes being consistently associated with signs or worlds. Here is an excellent paper by astrologist Chris Brennan that talks about the joys, and the styles of all your homes. [http://www.hellenisticastrology.com/the-planetary-joys.pdf] (http://www.hellenisticastrology.com/the-planetary-joys.pdf).
Mercury – Gemini & & Virgo,.
And if you want to state that the source texts of astrology make no sense, and are old and dusty and ridiculous and our modern intuition has rendered these concepts archaic and inane? Perhaps read a couple of standard astrology texts.
Things get taken personally, feelings get injured, resentments get constructed, and its simply not productive at all, and both the conventional rulership individual and modern rulership individual walk away feeling worse than they did before. I believed I would make a post talking about WHY standard astrologists utilize the rulerships and home associations they use.
Being a part of the astrological neighborhood – and working expertly as a conventional astrologer – when I talk about homes or rulerships, there is no doubt that somebody will quickly respond with “But youre wrong. uranus rules aquarius!” or describing things as “Scorpio/the 8th house has to do with … ___”
Mars – Aries & & Scorpio,.
thus, if we include the outer planets of uranus, neptune, and pluto as rulers, knowing they are not stars who can get away with ruling 1 sign – we would need to appoint the 3 outer planets 2 signs each. Nobody has actually had the ability to determine a method to do this that really makes good sense.
The happiness are as follows:.
It is basic to do the homes this method, and shit, it was my introductory idea about the houses too. Why do we require two different things that both indicate the very same thing as Aries? As this, this concept about the houses and about the outer worlds as rulers have actually triggered individuals to start to mishmash the home significances, sign significance, and planet meanings together, losing the distinct value and initial ideas about each separate concept.
1) an external planet closely conjunct the chart angles (air conditioning or DC, IC or MC). Simply being in the angular houses (1, 4, 7, or 10) does not have almost as much significance as when they are actually carefully conjunct among these 4 axis points.
2) An external planet involved in a MAJOR element (conjunct, square, trine, opposite, sextile) to an inner planet (It also has to be within orb. Neptune being 8-10 degrees away from the Sun/Moon etc. is not a combination, or being 7-10 degrees far from a precise square/trine to the Sun/Moon etc. is not an appropriate square/trine, whatever, either.).
If anyone else has anything to include: put it below! And please, lets keep it civil. All astrologers, amateur, professional, contemporary, traditional, uranian, etc, are incredibly intense and valuable!
TLDR; the outer worlds dont rule inner planets due to the fact that all inner planets (besides the stars, aka sun/moon) rule 2 various indications, so if we include the outer worlds in, it muddles whatever.
The homes being associated the indications i.e. aries = 1H, taurus = 2H – is a modern-day development of convenience. The rulers of houses alter depending on your chart (if your ascendant/1H is taurus, the ruler of 1H = venus, 2h= mercury, and so on.).
I simply wished to put some distinct information out here on why traditional astrologers state the important things they do about houses and rulerships. If this is highly worded, I ask forgiveness, I just wish to clear things up a bit.
No one knows exactly where the “1st house = aries, 2nd home = taurus, 3rd house = gemini” concept truly took root. As this, this concept about the houses and about the outer worlds as rulers have triggered people to start to mishmash the home significances, indication significance, and world significances together, losing the distinct value and initial ideas about each different idea. Now, Houses do still have rulers, however it changes depending on the orientation of the homes in each natal chart. Whatever your very first home is, the ruler of that indication is the ruler of your 1st home, and then the ruler of your 2nd home indication is that ruler of that house, and so on. (ex/ Cancer ascendant = 1st home ruler = moon, 2nd home is leo, ruler = sun, 3rd house is virgo, ruler = mercury, and so on.
Edit: I am not recommending we eliminate the outer planets, I enjoy the external worlds personally. Im just explaining this reasoning.